I don't think playing the "off-limits," game with Russia will work as Putin always hides behind others who do his dirty work. But the fact that Biden said something so weak and ineffective, is embarrassing. It's almost as if it's actually the Democratic Party which has close ties to China and Russia while the entire time they were trying to say Trump was close to these leaders. I don't know about you, but I don't find that at all shocking as their mantra is: "The end justifies the means."